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Brand and website: together or separately?

If your positioning or identity is about to change, settle the brand first or design both together, so your new website doesn't wear a brand on its way out. If your brand is sound, redesign the website with it and refine only what struggles on screens. Doing both together takes longer and costs more than a website alone, and it saves you from designing twice.

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Truck'n Roll website, with brand identity and design by Locomotive
A website is often the first place a brand has to prove itself, so the order you tackle them in matters. If your positioning or identity is about to change, settle the brand first or design both together; if your brand is sound, redesign the website with it and refine only what struggles on screens. Doing both at once takes longer and costs more than a website alone, and it saves you from designing twice.

Plenty of organizations hit the moment where the brand and the website both feel a step behind. Do you tackle them in sequence, at the same time, or leave the brand alone? Taste has little to do with it. The real question is how stable your positioning and identity are.

We work on branding only, websites only, or both, so we've lived all three scenarios from the inside. Here's how to tell which one is yours.

Three scenarios

1. Brand first, then the website

Go this way when the positioning itself is up for debate: a merger, a new offer, a new name, or leadership that hasn't agreed on what the organization stands for. Strategy and identity need room to settle, and a website designed before those decisions land will probably be redone.

Sequencing doesn't mean sitting on your hands. Once the strategy and the core of the identity are approved, website discovery and structure can start while the identity is refined and extended.

2. Brand and website together

Go this way when the brand needs to change and the website is its main stage, as it is for many digital-first companies. Designing both at once lets us test the identity in real layouts early: navigation, product pages, forms, motion. A logo that looks great on a poster can behave very differently inside a sticky header, and we'd rather find that out early. The website then launches as the first full expression of the new brand.

We've done this for very different organizations. For Truck'n Roll, a tour logistics specialist with 30 years behind the biggest shows, we created the brand and the website. For Sundae Creative, we reimagined the visual identity and designed a site that feels both refined and fun. For Webisoft, a bold new identity and an immersive website were part of the same project.

3. Website only, with your current brand

Go this way when the brand is sound and the problems are structure, content, performance, editing or the platform. Our job then is to extend the identity to screens: interface components, motion principles, accessible colour combinations, responsive behaviour. Light refinements, such as a logo version that holds up at small sizes, can happen along the way without a rebrand.

This scenario is common, and it works well. Lightship's visual identity was created by Manual, and we designed and built its website. Mate Libre's brand is by Caserne, and Age of Union's by Baillat Studio; we designed the websites for both.

Sundae Creative website page, with the visual identity reimagined by Locomotive
Lightship website designed and built by Locomotive around an identity created by Manual

Five questions to decide

Sit down with your leadership team and answer these honestly:

  • Has the business changed in a way the current brand doesn't reflect? New offer, new audience, new markets, merger?
  • Do people misunderstand you in ways the website alone can't fix?
  • Does the identity struggle on screens? Illegible at small sizes, colours that can't meet contrast requirements, nothing to say about motion or interfaces?
  • Is leadership aligned on what the organization stands for?
  • Is there a date you can't move, such as a launch, a funding round or an event?

Mostly yes to the first three: the brand needs work, so go brand first or both together. Leadership not aligned yet: start with strategy, before anyone opens a design file. Mostly no: a website project with your current brand is probably the smarter investment, and our guide to website redesign ROI can help you build the case.

What each choice implies

Timeline. Our website projects typically take 5 to 7 months from kickoff to launch, and larger or more complex ones can take up to a year. Identity work stretches that, because strategy and identity have their own phases. Overlapping them in one project usually shortens the total compared with two projects run back to back. Our guide to how long a website project takes walks through each phase.

Budget. Most of our website projects start around CA$125,000, and some cost less depending on scope. Identity work comes on top, and its cost depends heavily on what's included. Ask for the brand and the website to be itemized separately in the proposal, so you can see each part and adjust the scope. Our guide to what a custom website costs explains what drives the figure.

Team. One team doing both keeps the brand and the experience in the same conversation, with fewer handoffs. Two teams can work well too, as long as the brand team stays involved during the website design and the website team gets source files, guidelines and clear decision rights.

The worst outcome is a beautiful website built for a brand that's about to change. Decide what you stand for first; the order of the rest follows from that.
Co-founder and President, Locomotive

What to do next

Take the five questions above to your leadership team and fit the answers on one page. If the brand needs work, our guides to rebranding and what brand identity work includes will help you frame the scope. If the brand is sound, head straight to writing your website brief, and list the identity files and guidelines you already have. Either way, ask agencies to price the brand and the website as separate lines, even if you plan to do both. And if you'd like a second opinion on which scenario you're in, we're happy to talk it through.

Frequently asked questions

Should I rebrand before redesigning my website?

If your positioning or identity will change soon, yes: settle the brand first, or design both together, so the website isn't built around a brand you're about to replace. If the brand is sound and the trouble is the site itself, redesign the website with the brand you have.

Can we redesign our website and keep our current brand?

Yes, and it's often the right call. A good website team extends an existing identity to the web by adding what screens need, such as interface components, motion and accessible colour combinations, while the brand itself stays put.

Does Locomotive do branding only, or only websites?

Both, separately or together. We take on branding projects on their own, website projects on their own, and projects that bring the two together.

Can a web agency work with a brand identity created by another agency?

Yes. It's common, and it works well when roles are clear and the website team gets the source files, the guidelines and a contact on the brand side. We designed and built Lightship's website, for example, around an identity created by Manual.

Does doing the brand and the website together take longer?

Yes, longer than a website alone, because identity work adds its own phases before and alongside the design. Running both as one overlapping project is usually faster than doing them back to back with different teams.

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